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		<title>By: Healing From Sexual Abuse: Celebrating My Victories - Overcoming Sexual Abuse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Healing From Sexual Abuse: Celebrating My Victories - Overcoming Sexual Abuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 20:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bethany Ruck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bethany Ruck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 05:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rachel, I&#039;m so glad this moved you. Being in the thick of healing is both a terrifying and great feeling. It awesome to know you&#039;re getting somewhere. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel, I&#8217;m so glad this moved you. Being in the thick of healing is both a terrifying and great feeling. It awesome to know you&#8217;re getting somewhere. <img src='http://overcomingsexualabuse.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 05:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Bethany,  Your analogy and words gave me goosebumps. I thought I was well on my way to healing
when, just this week,  my psyche let me get to an even scarier place. I finally realized that my chronic , horrible
pelvic pain is a direct result of my abuse. I now own that knowledge. When four doctors and I came to that conclusion the other day, I thought, &quot;oh God, now I&#039;m truly in the deepest part of this muddy swamp.&quot;  It terrified me. 
Then, just now, as I sat here reading your words, I realized that I may be in the mud, but at least I know where I am. And I see that it is, in fact, me in this place. I finally have a true picture &amp; a real location. It sucks, but at least I understand what I am dealing with, I own the reality that was forced upon me, &amp; I have faith I will be able to use MY TRUTH as a compass to guide me out of this place. Thank you for throwing a rope I can hold on to. Ur words just moved me closer to my healing myself. A huge hug 4 u! &lt;3 Rachel]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Bethany,  Your analogy and words gave me goosebumps. I thought I was well on my way to healing<br />
when, just this week,  my psyche let me get to an even scarier place. I finally realized that my chronic , horrible<br />
pelvic pain is a direct result of my abuse. I now own that knowledge. When four doctors and I came to that conclusion the other day, I thought, &#8220;oh God, now I&#8217;m truly in the deepest part of this muddy swamp.&#8221;  It terrified me.<br />
Then, just now, as I sat here reading your words, I realized that I may be in the mud, but at least I know where I am. And I see that it is, in fact, me in this place. I finally have a true picture &amp; a real location. It sucks, but at least I understand what I am dealing with, I own the reality that was forced upon me, &amp; I have faith I will be able to use MY TRUTH as a compass to guide me out of this place. Thank you for throwing a rope I can hold on to. Ur words just moved me closer to my healing myself. A huge hug 4 u! &lt;3 Rachel</p>
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		<title>By: Cassandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cassandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 22:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That was a very generous message to give your readers.
 I am in therapy and having a hard time letting it be about me.
 I try to talk about my therapist instead, and he keeps saying &quot;this is about you.&quot;
   But I don&#039;t want it to be about me, that idea make me feel alone, empty and depressed. That WAS me, so putting the focus on me feels like...&quot;-Wow, focus on me...okay...lonely, alone, sad, afraid...really? Can&#039;t we talk about you? You&#039;re a guy, like I wish I had been so I would&#039;ve been safe. You seem happy and friendly...are you sure we can&#039;t make this therapy about you?  &#039;Cause you seem like a much better subject than angry, isolated, female me.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a very generous message to give your readers.<br />
 I am in therapy and having a hard time letting it be about me.<br />
 I try to talk about my therapist instead, and he keeps saying &#8220;this is about you.&#8221;<br />
   But I don&#8217;t want it to be about me, that idea make me feel alone, empty and depressed. That WAS me, so putting the focus on me feels like&#8230;&#8221;-Wow, focus on me&#8230;okay&#8230;lonely, alone, sad, afraid&#8230;really? Can&#8217;t we talk about you? You&#8217;re a guy, like I wish I had been so I would&#8217;ve been safe. You seem happy and friendly&#8230;are you sure we can&#8217;t make this therapy about you?  &#8216;Cause you seem like a much better subject than angry, isolated, female me.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 23:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Among many other things, I am a widow and also as the mother of a teenager who was in residential therapy for mental health issues/treament. I can really identify with the dynamic you describe here, Bethany. I do my best to reach out and support widows and parents of struggling teens, especially when the widows are young or the teens are engaging in dangerous behavior. I remember how terrifying those experiences were at times, and it&#039;s an honor for me to let others know they are not alone. 

There are times, however, when I find I respond with emotion that is inordinately strong and, in retrospect, misplaced. It is at those times I have to check in with myself and see where that is coming from. There are plenty of times I can engage in a healthy exchange of need and support, but when I find myself being overbearing or overly emotional, I pretty much come back to the fact that there is something in me that is calling out for my attention. I may need to apologize to someone, I may need to just back off for a bit, I may need to honestly share my struggle with the person I&#039;ve responded to so strongly ... but I definitely need to stop and take stock and take care of my own wounds which have caused a wonky response or interchange. If I ignore my own issues, the strength and inappropriateness of emotion seems to simply grow. If I get lost in &#039;helping&#039; someone else while avoiding my own pain or need, no one really benefits from that. People aren&#039;t dumb; they know when it&#039;s really about you even when you try to make it sound like it&#039;s about them.

It&#039;s a variation on a theme I saw as people tried to learn how to interact with me after my husband died or when my daughter was suicidal or in the psych ward. Oftentimes they said things that hurt or just came across weird, most likely because my loss sparked a fear or discomfort in them. Of course they felt odd around me. I felt odd around me. Knowing that I can get whacked out so that I need to stop and look closely at myself helps me to have a bit more patience with others, whether they bother to stop and look closely at themselves or not. (But honestly there are those times I&#039;m not so patient and it just bugs me!  ; ]   ) It&#039;s possible to walk a balance wherein we genuinely reach out to others while still taking care of oursleves; sometimes it takes constant readjustment, like tightrope walkers who continue to shift their weight or balance sticks so they can stay upright . We are wounded healers, and we won&#039;t do life perfectly, but we can keep a healthy balance if we are willing to do the work. 

 I&#039;m so glad I came across this blog post; this is something I&#039;ve been aware of and wrestling through lately.  Thanks for letting me share my experience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Among many other things, I am a widow and also as the mother of a teenager who was in residential therapy for mental health issues/treament. I can really identify with the dynamic you describe here, Bethany. I do my best to reach out and support widows and parents of struggling teens, especially when the widows are young or the teens are engaging in dangerous behavior. I remember how terrifying those experiences were at times, and it&#8217;s an honor for me to let others know they are not alone. </p>
<p>There are times, however, when I find I respond with emotion that is inordinately strong and, in retrospect, misplaced. It is at those times I have to check in with myself and see where that is coming from. There are plenty of times I can engage in a healthy exchange of need and support, but when I find myself being overbearing or overly emotional, I pretty much come back to the fact that there is something in me that is calling out for my attention. I may need to apologize to someone, I may need to just back off for a bit, I may need to honestly share my struggle with the person I&#8217;ve responded to so strongly &#8230; but I definitely need to stop and take stock and take care of my own wounds which have caused a wonky response or interchange. If I ignore my own issues, the strength and inappropriateness of emotion seems to simply grow. If I get lost in &#8216;helping&#8217; someone else while avoiding my own pain or need, no one really benefits from that. People aren&#8217;t dumb; they know when it&#8217;s really about you even when you try to make it sound like it&#8217;s about them.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a variation on a theme I saw as people tried to learn how to interact with me after my husband died or when my daughter was suicidal or in the psych ward. Oftentimes they said things that hurt or just came across weird, most likely because my loss sparked a fear or discomfort in them. Of course they felt odd around me. I felt odd around me. Knowing that I can get whacked out so that I need to stop and look closely at myself helps me to have a bit more patience with others, whether they bother to stop and look closely at themselves or not. (But honestly there are those times I&#8217;m not so patient and it just bugs me!  ; ]   ) It&#8217;s possible to walk a balance wherein we genuinely reach out to others while still taking care of oursleves; sometimes it takes constant readjustment, like tightrope walkers who continue to shift their weight or balance sticks so they can stay upright . We are wounded healers, and we won&#8217;t do life perfectly, but we can keep a healthy balance if we are willing to do the work. </p>
<p> I&#8217;m so glad I came across this blog post; this is something I&#8217;ve been aware of and wrestling through lately.  Thanks for letting me share my experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Bethany Ruck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bethany Ruck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 20:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Dwyanna. So glad you enjoyed it. :)

Gabrielle, it&#039;s great that you&#039;ve come to realize that. It&#039;s such a huge step in the right direction, huh? It&#039;s so easy to disassociate from our pain when others&#039; pain is so close to us. 

Darlene, yes! I can so identify with that. I definitely agree. There are two very different types of emails we receive. And I don&#039;t always know which are which. But there are a select few that are very clear to me what is going on, it it does make me concerned. I want those people to face their issues, not my own.

Wendi, Thanks for explaining how you took that. I was having trouble understanding your comments until you clarified that. I&#039;m sorry if what I wrote sounded cold. I can understand how you might think I meant that I don&#039;t want people contacting me or offering support. That&#039;s not what I meant. What I was trying to say is that sometimes people identify me as the youngest and most vulnerable member of the OSA team and they project their feelings of vulnerability onto me. I appreciate the encouragement and support of fellow survivors. Like Darlene mentioned in her comment, some of them are condescending, but the majority of them are truly caring people. The condescending ones bother me, but I&#039;m not trying to guess the motives of the other ones. Whatever their reasons for reaching out to me, that&#039;s their business. I really wanted to say in my blog that supporting me is good, but only if it&#039;s not at the blog readers expense. I encourage the support of others. That&#039;s what we do here on OSA. We are a community of survivors who support each other.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Dwyanna. So glad you enjoyed it. <img src='http://overcomingsexualabuse.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Gabrielle, it&#8217;s great that you&#8217;ve come to realize that. It&#8217;s such a huge step in the right direction, huh? It&#8217;s so easy to disassociate from our pain when others&#8217; pain is so close to us. </p>
<p>Darlene, yes! I can so identify with that. I definitely agree. There are two very different types of emails we receive. And I don&#8217;t always know which are which. But there are a select few that are very clear to me what is going on, it it does make me concerned. I want those people to face their issues, not my own.</p>
<p>Wendi, Thanks for explaining how you took that. I was having trouble understanding your comments until you clarified that. I&#8217;m sorry if what I wrote sounded cold. I can understand how you might think I meant that I don&#8217;t want people contacting me or offering support. That&#8217;s not what I meant. What I was trying to say is that sometimes people identify me as the youngest and most vulnerable member of the OSA team and they project their feelings of vulnerability onto me. I appreciate the encouragement and support of fellow survivors. Like Darlene mentioned in her comment, some of them are condescending, but the majority of them are truly caring people. The condescending ones bother me, but I&#8217;m not trying to guess the motives of the other ones. Whatever their reasons for reaching out to me, that&#8217;s their business. I really wanted to say in my blog that supporting me is good, but only if it&#8217;s not at the blog readers expense. I encourage the support of others. That&#8217;s what we do here on OSA. We are a community of survivors who support each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is the way I took what was being written about in this blog...you were bothered by some or all, or maybe the sheer number of messages you got...either the content or just the fact that you were getting them.  So, you made assumptions about the intent of the messages based on how you felt in reaction to them and you projected that on to the message senders as if you know that was their intent, and my opinion is that it was done in a kind of cold way.  And you not only told us we should take care of ourselves and our issues, and how sending you messages means we&#039;re not...but you did it in the name of taking care of us and our issues which is exactly what it seems you thought we were doing for you.  I have no doubt at all that what you say about others projecting onto you is true...and I agree it is easier sometimes to do something under the guise of taking care of others than to say this is about me and how I feel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the way I took what was being written about in this blog&#8230;you were bothered by some or all, or maybe the sheer number of messages you got&#8230;either the content or just the fact that you were getting them.  So, you made assumptions about the intent of the messages based on how you felt in reaction to them and you projected that on to the message senders as if you know that was their intent, and my opinion is that it was done in a kind of cold way.  And you not only told us we should take care of ourselves and our issues, and how sending you messages means we&#8217;re not&#8230;but you did it in the name of taking care of us and our issues which is exactly what it seems you thought we were doing for you.  I have no doubt at all that what you say about others projecting onto you is true&#8230;and I agree it is easier sometimes to do something under the guise of taking care of others than to say this is about me and how I feel.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene Ouimet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darlene Ouimet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bethany,
I like the picture you painted in this post! 
As a blog author myself, I have run across this issue too and sometimes it is almost as though people want to argue with me about my own life and my feelings about it. It took me a while to realize that when this happens it is usually about them and what is triggering them and not really about me.  And it also took some time for me to realize that when I had certain reactions to other peoples posts that often they triggered something in me too. It really does come down to each of us doing our own work. 

Here is the way that I took what you were writing about getting emails or comments where people don&#039;t seem to believe that I have recovered ~ that happens to me too, and  it seems to be the way that it is worded that makes me either feel judged, or supported.   Sometimes people offer to come along side me and that is fantastic.  Other times people seem to look down on me or insult me and indicate that they feel sorry for me or that they &quot;know&quot; I can&#039;t possibly have dealt with whatever issue they are writing me about and that takes me back to when I was abused and always told that I was wrong, or crazy.  There is a big difference in those two types of comments or emails.  
Hugs, Darlene]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bethany,<br />
I like the picture you painted in this post!<br />
As a blog author myself, I have run across this issue too and sometimes it is almost as though people want to argue with me about my own life and my feelings about it. It took me a while to realize that when this happens it is usually about them and what is triggering them and not really about me.  And it also took some time for me to realize that when I had certain reactions to other peoples posts that often they triggered something in me too. It really does come down to each of us doing our own work. </p>
<p>Here is the way that I took what you were writing about getting emails or comments where people don&#8217;t seem to believe that I have recovered ~ that happens to me too, and  it seems to be the way that it is worded that makes me either feel judged, or supported.   Sometimes people offer to come along side me and that is fantastic.  Other times people seem to look down on me or insult me and indicate that they feel sorry for me or that they &#8220;know&#8221; I can&#8217;t possibly have dealt with whatever issue they are writing me about and that takes me back to when I was abused and always told that I was wrong, or crazy.  There is a big difference in those two types of comments or emails.<br />
Hugs, Darlene</p>
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		<title>By: Gabrielle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabrielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bold! Very bold and very true. Thank you for writing this Bethany. I think I&#039;ve been doing this very thing. I recently discovered that in addition to abusing my sister and me, my father also abused my nieces. I&#039;ve been focused lately on helping them and comforting my sister. I can feel outrage and empathy for everyone else, but I feel flat or dead when it comes to me. I wrote a letter to my dead father and brought it to my therapist this week. I hadn&#039;t even realized that I began the letter with, &quot;Dear Daddy.&quot; I was making great strides in my recovery until it came to the point of having to feel angry with my father. I can feel angry with my sister, my mother, myself and my poor husband all day long. But the one who raped my tiny self? Nope. Nada. Nothing. What the heck? I need to step up and let the stand in take a break. I just don&#039;t seem to know how to do that...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bold! Very bold and very true. Thank you for writing this Bethany. I think I&#8217;ve been doing this very thing. I recently discovered that in addition to abusing my sister and me, my father also abused my nieces. I&#8217;ve been focused lately on helping them and comforting my sister. I can feel outrage and empathy for everyone else, but I feel flat or dead when it comes to me. I wrote a letter to my dead father and brought it to my therapist this week. I hadn&#8217;t even realized that I began the letter with, &#8220;Dear Daddy.&#8221; I was making great strides in my recovery until it came to the point of having to feel angry with my father. I can feel angry with my sister, my mother, myself and my poor husband all day long. But the one who raped my tiny self? Nope. Nada. Nothing. What the heck? I need to step up and let the stand in take a break. I just don&#8217;t seem to know how to do that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wendi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think if I am confident and aware of my own feelings it doesn&#039;t matter what anyone&#039;s motives are, nor does it matter what they assume are mine (as their thoughts are most definitely a reflection of their feelings just like mine are of mine).  I try very hard to be aware when I am making assumptions about what other people think, feel, or mean...and realize that is not my place and is likely to be inaccurate as I am making judgment based on me - because I have no idea what it&#039;s like to be them.  All I have to do is be aware of how it makes me feel and react accordingly...and I try to do so with compassion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if I am confident and aware of my own feelings it doesn&#8217;t matter what anyone&#8217;s motives are, nor does it matter what they assume are mine (as their thoughts are most definitely a reflection of their feelings just like mine are of mine).  I try very hard to be aware when I am making assumptions about what other people think, feel, or mean&#8230;and realize that is not my place and is likely to be inaccurate as I am making judgment based on me &#8211; because I have no idea what it&#8217;s like to be them.  All I have to do is be aware of how it makes me feel and react accordingly&#8230;and I try to do so with compassion.</p>
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